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Why Reservation in Private Sector?

by Indra

April 25, 2006

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Mr. Seshasayee is the managing director of Ashok Leyland, and now the president of CII. As reported, he said, “a majority of its member companies from the manufacturing sector already employs as much as 30-35% from the backward classes.” The initial responses from manufacturing companies to an in-house survey indicated that in some cases, backward classes constituted over 50% of the workforce. “Ashok Leyland itself has 55% of employees from the backward classes. As claimed by Bajaj Auto chairman Rahul Bajaj, the caste profile in his company showed that almost 30% of the employees belonged to the SC/ST and other backward classes. And as Mr. Seshasayee says, it would not surprise him if the backward class employment in the booming services sector was even higher than that in the manufacturing sector. Surprisingly, even with a mandatory reservation policy in public sector, as per the latest Central Public Enterprises survey, ‘out of the 1.24 million employees as on January 1, 2005, almost 45% belonged to the backward classes.

And with my life long experience of the manufacturing sector, I feel like agreeing with him and think he is right. In any manufacturing sector, the largest numbers of people employed are operatives engaged in routine and repetitive assembly jobs or on machines. And their skill requirement is minimal. Most of them are recruited and trained in plant. Same will be the case in textile industry that employ a large number to operate the looms and other machines. More important is the number of people employed in the manufacturing sector, and that must increase. Surprisingly, according to the Tenth Plan, the organised private sector employs only about 9 million and accounts for less than 3% of the total workforce in the country.

Priority of the government must be see manufacturing sector grow. Many more new greenfield plants must come up. Scale of the production facilities, quality, cost, and innovation rates must be comparable to that of the advanced countries. I have myself seen that even the manufacturing plant in Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines and Thailand are huge in comparison with the plants in India.

I am sure the politicians will not believe it. They must visit the plants and have a feel of it before they talk about something that has heated up the working environment of the industrial sector. The reservations bring only hatred among the privileged and forcedly privileged castes. Instead, all the privileges must be based on knowledge of the people employed that he earns because of his interest in developing his skill. The employers must provide the opportunity through training and education.

As suggested by a columnist, ‘if we had the slightest concern for India’s underprivileged, we would focus on providing facilities and programmes to equip them with critical livelihood skills — be it construction skills for the large number of ST women forced to carry physical head loads, or the many Muslims excluded from formal labour markets and engaged in petty entrepreneurship such as auto mechanics or mistries.’

It is surprising that even with the changing landscape of life and work in rural India there is no effort by politicians and government to create jobs there. With tractors, diesel pumps, motor cycles, cycles, radio, gas stoves and even TV and other entertainment appliances, all the users visit the town nearby to get it serviced and repaired. Why can’t some village youngster pick up the skill and get himself employed in his village itself? Why should they be so interested to get a chaprasi job in government contributing nothing but addition of unnecessary manpower? Instead let the government must come out with thousands of ITIs so that all the young people of India are professionally skilled and employable. FM wished the private sector companies to adopt the existing ITIs and upgrade them. The proposal would not be difficult for CII and FICCI and must be executed in good spirit and fast. For a trained man, the opportunity today is limitless. See how many of these people are going to Middle East countries. As the Retailers Associations of India has plans to train and absorb youths from backward communities for the huge numbers of new retail stores, multiplexes and malls, the association of construction industry or some big construction companies must set up training centers for masons, plumbers, carpenters, electricians, and painters. The equipment manufacturers must open many facilities to train large number of youngsters who can repair and service their products for which consumers are getting a feel of short-changed after purchase.

The politicians have already divided the country and trying to divide it for all the generations to come. Is it not against the goal of national integrity?

 

Comments:
Since the author has questioned the reservation in "private sector", I would keep the focus of my posting only on "private sector" in the context of it's social responsibility (or lack of it). Let me first reveal their true face, their other face. Going by what have appeared in media (print or electronic), the reactions of almost all industrialists and corporate leaders are anti-reservation. In fact, they all have conveyed resentment of any sort of Govt. interference in private sector. They are throwing all sorts of tantrums on the issue of reservation.

But, it may be interesting, in the context of the reactions of corporate leaders, to ask "how private is their private sector?" It is well known that the most organized private sector companies have small fraction, (which rarely exceeds 20 %), of the equity from the people who control it. The rest is contributed by FI (financial institutions) and the public. If one reckons the fact that the capital coming from financial institutions and banks is after all public money, the so called private enterprise will no more appear as private. Leave aside its capital structure; do these private companies not benefit from the State? Do they not get land, utilities and infrastructure at the throw away price? Are they not given a plethora of concessions in tax, duties etc. in the name of investment incentives. Do they share the cost of education with the State when it draws its human resources? It can be easily found that the private sector in India gets far more benefits from the State than the Public sector. The entire profitability of the Reliance refinery, for example, is based on the sales tax deferment it received from the Gujarat government for 16 years which none of the PSUs has ever enjoyed. If it is so, then with what face can the corporate leaders throw tantrums over the issue of reservation?

While working with the largest public sector financial institution (I left the organization in 1999), I came across a very interesting fact/term known as NPA (Non-performing assets) of banks and FIs. NPA (or more simply "bad loans") is the money of banks, which have been loaned, but not getting any return. This is the best indicator to tell you about the health of a bank/FI. Less is the NPA, better is the bank. At the end of 1998-99, the NPAs of the public sector banks totaled over Rs. 50,000 crores (Rs. Fifty thousand crores, yes!! you read it rightly) indicating the massive drain of public funds from public institutions.

A task force of the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), was constituted to study the issue of NPA and to give it's recommendation. The CII's Task Force on Non-Performing Assets (NPAs) in the Indian financial system, chaired by K.V. Kamath, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer of the ICICI, a leading private financial institution, submitted its report to then Union Finance Minister Yashwant Sinha on December 13, 1999. It recommended closure of three "weak" banks, Indian Bank, United Commercial (UCO) Bank and the United Bank of India (UBI). The Task Force suggested that the first wave of privatisation should include the Bank of Baroda, Corporation Bank, Oriental Bank of Commerce and the State Bank of India. The next lot of candidates for privatisation included the Industrial Development Bank of India (IDBI), Industrial Finance and Corporation of India Ltd. (IFCI), the Small Industries Development Bank of India (SIDBI) and the Export-Import Bank of India.

But the most interesting aspect of this NPA issue was that the CII had conveniently ignored the very first question "why high levels of NPAs arose in the first place?, Who were the culprit?" The answer is - the problem was basically a creation of industrial houses, some of them members of the CII. The corporate sector owed Rs. 45,000 crores (of the NPA) to the public sector banks. The banks' inability to recover dues from powerful borrowers had adversely affected their performance. It came out that although defaulters may number in thousands, there is a high-level concentration in the amount owed by the top borrowers. Bank's employees union pointed out to the fact that such large borrowers are typically industrial houses. For instance, in the case of Indian Bank, the top 15 defaulters accounted for about one-third of all NPAs of the bank. In the Central Bank of India, 234 defaulting accounts, each amounting to at least Rs.1 c rore, owed the bank Rs.2,190 crores; the total NPA level of the Central Bank of India was at Rs.2,436 crores on March 31, 1999. Further consolidation of the figures, indicated an even higher degree of concentration. The top 20 defaulters owed a total of Rs.430 crores to the bank; the top defaulters thus account for one-fifth of the bank's NPAs. Many critics say that big business wanted to take over the public sector banks after bleeding them to death. There had also been demands that the Government publish the list of defaulters. Bankers have often said that regulations protecting the confidentiality of bank clients provided large-scale defaulters an opportunity to escape public scrutiny. The unions have also repeatedly asked the Reserve Bank of India and the Union Finance Ministry to publish the list of defaulters on a regular basis. The demand for greater transparency about defaulting accounts is based on the premise that there will be greater "moral pressure" on borrowers of public funds .

Now we know what happened. The CII hurriedly backtracked from it's recommendation and now they never talk about closure and privatization of public sector banks in India.

The real question about reservation in the private sector is not whether it is required or justified much so whether they erode the so-called merit and affect the prospects of holy FDI (foreign direct investment) into the country. Reservations do not have any connection with foreign direct investments. The foreign investments do not flow by seeing the caste of employees. Foreign investors appear enamored with India today because of its huge market, its infrastructure, its trained manpower available at paltry wages, its high interest rates, its political stability and consequently expectation of high rate of returns. Who has created this "market"; it is not a handful of upper caste 'meritorious' people but evidently the majority belonging to 'meritless' lower castes.

The feudal outlook of the Indian elites has hindered its comprehension that it is in the interest of capital to expand the market to create demand; de-segmentise labour market for getting competitive wage rates. They should reread the history of development of capitalism in Europe. They should revisit the rationale of political economy behind the affirmative actions operated in the capitalist El Dorado of the world—the US of America.

The discourse on reservation in the private sector has begun with a wrong implicit premise. The premise behind reservation as a mechanism to render a helping hand to the people who were oppressed socially for centuries is basically wrong. It should have been projected as a countervailing force against the socio-cultural disability of Indian society to treat people from the untouchable/oppressed castes as its own. It is a mechanism to ensure that the "deserving people" from these oppressed castes get their due share because otherwise the deep entrenched socio-cultural prejudice will never let them have it as can be seen in the sectors where this mechanism does not exist. (Currently private sector employs low caste people at lower rungs only, see the data given by the author in the above original article). Reservation being the antidote to the societal disability; it should have been applicable to all the sectors of society (economy). There is absolutely no logic for restricting it to the governmental or public sector or a few spheres like education and employment within them.

The right premise behind reservation in private sector would necessarily follow the re-articulation of the basic premise behind Constitutional reservation as stated above—that it is a countervailing measure by the state against the socio-cultural disability of Indian society. Since this disability pervades the entire society, reservation is imperative in all the spheres of its sectors. The premise behind reservation in the private sector thus should be restored, as the belated correction to the original premise behind reservations as a mechanism with which the rights of certain sections of society are protected, because left to itself society is incapable of doing it. - Prabhat Sinha, Noida - Apr. 26, 2006

In welfare economics i.e. economics of social development thoughts are always and properly considered rivals, yet they have much in common that can be easily ignored if one concentrates on the differences. Both entail valuation in their conduct.

All the post on PatnaDaily have three levels of thought. One is that of 'real' objects, persons (FC/OBC/SC/ST or above all these), institutions (IIT, IIM, Private Sector, Public Sector) and events (debates/discussion, friendly bashing, hate and love).

The second (i.e. to say INSTITUTIONS) is the logical or mathematical construct or machine, a piece of pure reasoning, almost of 'pure mathematics,' a system of mere relations amongst undefined thought-entities.

The third (Events (debates/discussion, friendly bashing)) is the world of names, linking the real-world elements with the undefined entities.

The categories of theory - the first level of thought (those opposing reservation) - i.e. to say those who are asking "Why Reservation?" are fundamentally, if not exclusively conceptual; they are empty, devoid of substantive content.

To understand why reservation in private sector we have to understand THE HISTORY OF POLITICAL ECONOMY/ECONOMICS.

THE HISTORY OF POLITICAL ECONOMY/ECONOMICS is replete with analyses of or views on the economic role of government and the manner by which the appropriate economic role of government is to be established.

Within this history, two approaches to analyzing the economic role of government may be contrasted.

One is the technical and the other is the ideological. These are two polar extremes.

THE NATURE AND SIGNIFICANCE OF ECONOMIC POLICY, and the making of that policy, must be understood against the background of certain conditions. It is these conditions which generate the human meaning of economic policy. The conditions, briefly stated, are as follows:

1. The economy is a product, a changing product, of human social construction.

2. Coupled with the actions and choices of individuals and subgroups, the legal-economic nexus is the complex and recondite source of both legal rights of economic significance and their change.

3. No unique optimal solution exists. Rather, a set of optimal solutions exists, each solution more or less specific to initial structures of power/rights/entitlements.

4. Institutions matter. Institutions represent the means of organized living; the definitions of reality in terms of which we think and form personal and social interests, and the ways in which individuals are both constrained and enhanced through collective action. In particular, institutions are both the source and the consequence of the rights which take place in the legal-economic nexus and are, inter alia, the basis on which the actually realized and solutions are achieved.

5. Society is a vast valuational process. It is a process in which the articulation, juxtaposition, assessment and effective choice of values takes place.

6. Society, especially the legal-economic nexus, is a process. Although individual participants contribute their own more or less socialized values and judgments, often as if these were conclusively correct, society as a process is a process of working things out. The result may appear odd and awkward as well as inconsistent and incoherent from the perspective of any particular participant or line of reasoning; the result represents a temporary balancing of interests, perceptions and sentiments.

If we study among other things, whether "... a household head moved from a reservation area to a non-reservation area or to the another state, or from the village to town/city/metro ", it becomes very important to stress that the "dependent" variables in the our studies at the micro level. One would certainly expect the more educated parties to have greater mobility and job opportunities and less educated to be more and more into same old same old dysfunctional activates .These dysfunctional activities in long run destroys the semantics of demand and supply equations . ONE time-tested principle of economic theory is diminishing marginal utility, and economics itself is no exception to this general rule. That’s why Government want reservation in Private sector.

Let us for the simplicity sake say that present Government is no foolish utopian who thinks that markets (Stock Market, 10% GDP, Bulls and Bears) will instantly propel us into the best of all possible worlds. In line with Government, we need to understand the face of poverty, deprivation and patience. Politicians will always seize the moment to consolidate power, and to them there is little to do, for they know what they are about. They judge each major piece of social engineering by its laudable objectives. They look only to stage one, that is, to the short-term effects of their proposal.

But if think coolly, single discrete actions have single discrete consequences. Find any passed bill by the Government to overcome the problem we can identify that their approach is like: If revenues are too low, raise taxes. If housing is too shoddy, then regulate minimum quality. Political control of decisions on the creation and allocation of goods and services puts the power in the hands of individuals who do not have to bear the direct consequences of their own poor judgment, while depriving ordinary individuals, who have a great stake in the outcome, of the control of their own destiny.

Here's another example: say we want price controls. Tell doctors that they can charge only Rs 10 per visit, and they'll comply with the law by shortening the visit. Before the regulation, the visit lasted for 20 minutes, and covered multiple conditions; now, magically, visits get truncated, and each is restricted to a single topic or a single shot. In the old system, when markets determined the mix between price and quality, doctors had no incentive to court patient dissatisfaction by stringing out visits. Now, of course, they do, and the lesson is that both physicians and patients are worse off under regulation than they were before. The patient may pay as much for the longer course of treatment, but receives less effective care. The moral: Regulate one side of an ordinary contract and you make both sides to the deal worse off .

Similarly, job reservation becomes the issue of quality versus quantity. As in example above if the things are not regulated properly quality will suffer but then medical facility has been made affordable for all. Unlike the example above, we all know even if you are IIT/IIM, you have to undergo rigorous training as per the needs of the organisation . Say my organistaion is in France and I will only take those IIT'ians who can speak french is also a form of reservation or we can say we will teach people French after they join the organisations. So , saying that reservation will hamper the quality of organisation is wrong.

We cannot ignore the ills of humankind can be legislated away with the stroke of a pen or making law. Some undocumented form of law still exists due to our historical caste system. But in the long run we are tending towards more equitable society. - Narayan Prasad - Apr. 27, 2006


Prabhat ji, All your arguments are genuine and logical. I agree that a lot needs to be done to remove the "socio-cultural disability of Indian Society". But the question is whether reservations (that too in their current form) are an efficient way to deal with it. Or do they simply perpetuate the caste system? Should we try and find (and implement) better ways to achieve the same goal. - Ravi Kirti - Apr. 27, 2006


Private or public sector, government or semi-government - reservation should not be allowed in any form. As I have already mentioned in my previous comments the term 'reservation ' itself declares that there was a compromise on merit. You can keep twisting your tongue and come out with arguments like merit is a relative term etc. but the fact remains that reservation in educational institutions or for employment purposes is eroding our credibility even at the international forum. Today you are asking for reservation for OBCs. Tomorrow Muslims, and then Christians, then Parsis, then women organisations - all of them will start asking for reservation in IIT and IIMs. And believe me some amongst them will be prolific writers who can put their points across the table with their rich vocabulary.

On a lighter note can somebody ask Mr Pramod Mahajan's family if they want to be treated by the 'best' doctor or will they go for someone from an OBC category. I am sure they will say merit, ability and experience should be the sole criteria. That is the reason why a leader of a so called Hindutva Party is getting expert opinion from a doctor from minority community who was specially flown form London. Then why cant we make merit and ability the criteria for educational institutions as well?

Nobody is against scholarships and educational grants for OBCs. With this help those who can attain a certain level and compete with their colleagues will be and should be allowed to progress. - Dr. Pankaj Kumar Mishra, UK - Apr. 27, 2006


The heated debate on reservations for backward casts in private sector job market would not be a right step. At a time when we are thinking global and acting local in India, this would deescalate the factual aspiration of becoming economic superpower by year in few decades.

The essence of the panic situations caused by over expectation and undue demand of reservations in almost every sector in Government employment opportunities is nothing but the sheer failure of our social system. Why not government spread the role of equal opportunity employer based on merit and caliber? Needless to mention, the protest would come from every nook and corner of the society, as they are addicted to the habit of readymade service. It would have been an ideal situation if the government would pursue the policy of equal opportunity employer since independence from British rule.

I am personally not against any reservation for really needy and under-privileged members of the society, nevertheless, there should be restrictions in the arena of application of this policy. What is the meaning of giving reservation to a student of Kindergarten standard, this would not solve the purpose, as this would merely make such students addicted to pampering by mother reservation.

There should be special incentives, programs and policies to encourage the members of under-privileged groups to take active part in education like subsidized fees, free books and materials etc. to bring them into mainstream of society. And this is the only step opt make them self dependent rather than making them crippled and handicapped that they can tread into ways of life without proper quotas and reservations.

At the same time, the pseudo-elite class of Indian society should also not have acrimonious feelings and try to fill the gap of the two ends of groups by more social interactions, public meeting and gathering. What would be the better interaction than educational institutions and workplace where we can understand each others and find the adoptable qualities in each other? - Iqbal Azim - Apr. 27, 2006


Having a large proportion of NPAs is definitely a case of bad strategy on part of the banks but how does it justify reservation in private companies is something I fail to comprehend. Going by same logic, most of the public sector companies personify poor efficiency while they have been pioneers in implementing the reservation system. Well, we can go on and on and cite examples proving each other's point but all I want to say is that meritocracy generates a very fair and healthy competition and that is the way to go forward to develop both economically and socially.

The government should focus on establishing more and more efficient academic institutions and provide financial aid to the needy students, implement programs to increase awareness at the grass root level etc. etc. In a nutshell, government should try and help the students to reach a position from where they can assess their capabilities, look for opportunities available and make their career decisions. This looks easier said than done but at least has the potential to take everybody together. Hope it happens like that. - Ravindra Shahi - Apr. 27, 2006


It seems my letter on reservation has gone for pretty good debate on the subject. I have some questions that I ask myself quite often as an old man.

What has been the net gain to the so-called oppressed class with the reservations provided in last so many years?

Does the reservation not create clevises in mind and heart of people belonging to different castes?

When can the expansion of the list of reserve class of castes stop, as the incoming governments have been expanding the list for getting favours of some castes?

Will the menace of casteism remain forever in our country that we all wish to see grow great and fast, preferably in next 10 years (with a selfish interest of perhaps seeing it myself)?

Is not the reservation getting perpetuated forever?

Why the have-nots of the so-called upper castes be penalized for no fault of theirs? - Indra - Apr. 27, 2006


I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I completely support the PM and all the politicians for promoting this. Let's start the reservation with our cricket team. We should have 10 percent reservation for Muslims. 30 percent for OBC, SC/ST like that. Cricket rules should be modified accordingly. The boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by a OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An OBC player scoring 60 runs should be declared as a century.

We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player. Bowlers should bowl maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an OBC player. Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal.

Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race, an OBC player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters.

There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let's recruit SC/ST and OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers and politicians (that can really help the country.. )

Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the ministers and other politicians. (Another way of saving the country..)

Let's be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA forward...
Let's show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country. Let's be proud of being an INDIAN..

May the good breed of politicians like ARJUN SINGH long live... - Ameet Kumar Srivastava - Apr. 27, 2006


I am taking opportunity to answer the following questions.

What has been the net gain to the so-called oppressed class with the reservations provided in last so many years?

In India, unsociability of untouchables is completely eroded because of law and because of reservation more and more people from SC/ST have joined upstream.

Reservation had been a issue in developed world also. But after Civil rights legislation in the 1960s and abolishment of what were called Jim Crow laws, that had long disenfranchised, blacks’ situation changed. After that, affirmative action became a social movement more than a legal requirement. Throughout the US, colleges started having implicit or explicit quotas for blacks, without legal compulsion. Mayors and local governments began giving preference to black contractors in issuing local contracts. Even the armed forces went out of their way to attract blacks at all levels. Harvard, Massachusetts Institute of Technology , London School of Economics, Stanford University, Cambridge University, Oxford of UK and US should have come down by now with affirmation action providing place for blacks and ethnic minorities for many years.

In other countries, the policy of reservation has been adopted against the discrimination on the bases of caste, race, color, ethnicity, nation and social origin. Racial discrimination is rampant in UK despite a law, Roman Catholic is targeted in Ireland by Protestants and in Pakistan there is Punjabi discrimination against the Baluchis and the Sindhis. USA calls it the Quota System to target and numerical balance.

Any reservation policy, by any country is just an affirmative action to provide a fair access to the discriminated.

In Malaysia, they reserved large tracts of land for the Malays, Jews have been given compensation. In our country, Mahars in Maharashtra, who were considered untouchables, were given entire regiment in the army, Mahar Regiment, and they have produced best of heroes for Indian Army, whose war cry is "BOLO HINDUSTAN KI JAY". This regiment is truly an honor to Mahars of Maharashtra. Mahar Regiment is pride of India, who has won till date, 1 Param Vir Chakra, 4 Maha Vir Chakra, 29 Vir Chakra, 1 Kirti Chakra, 12 Shaurya Chakra, 22 Vishisht Seva Medals and 63 Sena Medals.

Does the reservation not create clevises in mind and heart of people belonging to different castes?

Not exactly. Only people who are facing the issue of reservations in educational institutes and workplace are middle class as it is based on economics indicators and not on caste lines.

Most of the arguments against reservations are centered on the concept of appreciation of the talented and meritorious individuals in society. By definition, these ideologies categorize every individual as equal and refuse to draw distinction between people based on their abilities. Therefore, all the arguments about who is more eligible than the rest is meretricious i.e. to say we are tending towards the old theory of “Survival for the Fittest” and we have come long way to know that this theory creates more clevises in mind and heart of people . This theory if re implemented will recreate Jungles and will make us animals again.

We have also come long way now and know that none of us have seen a true meritocracy in this world. Working towards a meritocracy is as much a utopia as working towards classless society. There are lots of factors other than merit that is responsible for the success of individual in society-family background, religious background, social networking etc. etc.

Job reservations in government service and educational institutions are subject to minimum cut-off marks. If a Dalit candidate does not get the minimum marks needed to qualify for admission to the civil service or an engineering college, he will be rejected even if the reserved quota is unfilled. Then why we are worrying ?

Of course, all this would not have been required if the Government of India had tried to create a level playing field for all the students irrespective of geography, caste, or class by providing quality basic school education to at least a significant percentage of the children in India. It takes persistence and objectivity to do this.

When can the expansion of the list of reserve class of castes stop, as the incoming governments have been expanding the list for getting favours of some castes?

It will stop when the society will become more equitable and more and more people will franchise the power of electoral changes and give their mandate on the basis of development and progress.

See what happened in Bihar, people realized that voting for Muscle power on the basis of caste and religion is not going to help them any more and this time they voted for change, development and progress. In politics, FC and OBC are equally powerful in Bihar and the same thing will happen in education, economy. Education and economic independence are the solutions of major problems.


Will the menace of casteism remain forever in our country that we all wish to see grow great and fast, preferably in next 10 years (with a selfish interest of perhaps seeing it myself)? Is not the reservation getting perpetuated forever?

The menace of castes is going to stay. Though I have written that “If every Indian gets proper education, we will never require reservations as every one of them will have equal chance, but that will take two or three life time. Till then, the "lower caste" should be protected at any cost, till they are able to find their way up the socio-economic ladder."

What scares me is, if we do not uplift them, some one else will take contract from across the border to do that. you would appreciate my fear once you realize that it is not only the external enemy we are fighting right now, but totally 14 states are marred by Naxal activists (in the name of downtrodden and dalits), who are already trying to take the country towards civil war with their movements, might be successful soon. Yes, I shedder to think of that scenario. It has no longer remained a north-east problem. It is already knocking our door. - Narayan Prasad - Apr. 28, 2006


Intention behind reservation is/was to uplift the under privilege class of society. It has lost its purpose and meaning the way it is being implemented. Today scenario is there is privilege class inside the class of Backward/downtrodden people. This empowered class among the class of Backward/downtrodden people will never allow to reach the benefit of reservation to the needy and intended people.

Let us take example of claimed leaders of backward and downtrodden people like Ram Vilas Paswan, Mayavati, Mulayam Singh Yadav, Sharad Yadav, Nitish Kumar, Lalu Yadav etc. They and their sons and daughters are eligible to reap the benefit of reservation. Do they really need reservation in order to compete along with general category people? They should and can compete with anyone and anywhere. This can be extended to MLA'S, MP'S, civil servants and others officers category. This privileged class enjoying the benefits of reservation at the cost of other people of their class. Until and unless there is mechanism to filter out the CREAMY LAYER among backward and downtrodden people reservation will not serve its purpose in letter and sprit.

What is required today is not the reservation but to increase the intake of pupils at primary level and to make sure hassle free and quality education during schooling. All these so called great leaders irrespective of their affiliation are afraid or failed to do so. Necessary is to strict implementation program like free meal in school, scholarship for backward and downtrodden people. It would help to improve the quality of people coming out of school and they they won't need any reservation to compete in knowledge economy. There is scarcity of qualified and trained manpower in India as well as in world. India's BPO and service sector are struggling to get the skilled people and Reservation will worsen the situation. Need of the hour is to produce more and more quality manpower not to deteriorate the quality .

World is looking towards India as Knowledge Hub and reservation will be a retrograde step in that direction. - Niraj Singh - Apr. 28, 2006


It seems that the entire country is reeling under severe wave of reservation. Reservation in private sector, reservation for OBCs in central universities and institutions, reservation for minorities in Aligarh Muslim University, reservation for Muslims in government jobs and admissions as announced by Andhra Pradesh government (the case has been referred to the Supreme Court) etc are a few examples to mention.

It is unfortunate that reservation has become the nucleus of policy formulations of successive governments. Our policy makers are unable to look beyond reservations. Everything else has been relegated to give space to reservation. The latest buzz is reservation in the private sector. I believe that there is no need for any type of reservation in the private sector. The quota system is doing more harm than good to both the general and reserved category people. It is making the reserved category people complacent. They don’t want to face the reality of competition. They want the shelter of reservation in every aspect of life and for all time to come. This in turn is adversely affecting their competence.

Their level of incompetence is evident from the fact that several posts reserved for SCs/STs are lying vacant because of non-availability of qualified candidates. Recently the Higher Education Services Commission, Allahabad invited applications for 44 posts of lecturers in English. Since it was a special recruitment drive for SCs, all posts were reserved for SC category. The Commission received only three applications against 44 vacant posts. Only three candidates applied because enough qualified candidates were not available. This is not the rarest of rare case. Non-availability of qualified candidates (reserved category) is slowly and gradually becoming a trend.

Now, my question to the proponents of reservation is why enough qualified SC/ST candidates are not available despite there being reservations for them since independence? If enough qualified SC/ST ( of course ,with relaxed standard) candidates are not available for the post of lecturers, how can they expect reservations for themselves in private sector that demands high level of cognitive, managerial and communication skill? Why do they want to bleed the private sector which has been, of late, attracting attentions of international community for its vibrancy and efficiency?

Our experience with reservations during the last sixty years has proved that the quota system has succeeded only in creating an elite section among the SCs and STs. The same set of people have been taking advantage of reservation generation after generation at the cost of poor and needy. It has been found that the incomes of SC/ST students in IITs/IIMs are twice that of general category students. By no stretch of imagination they can be placed in the category of deprived section. But we must accept them as socially and educationally backward because the Constitution does so. - Sanjay P. Dubey, Noida - Apr. 28, 2006


Reservations cannot be justified, be it Public Sector or Private Sector. How can the disqualification of more laborious and qualification of less laborious people be justified?

1. People speaking for reservation talk about the upliftment of backward castes. That is all well and good but that does not mean it should happen at the cost of deserving people.

2. Reservation does discriminate on the basis of castes. One does not even need to speak about it.

3. Reservations should be eradicated NOW. It is just a weapon to create a vote bank and I am surprised pro-reservationists do not understand this and even if they understand it they choose to ignore it.

4. Reservation encourages not to work hard. It is simply a certificate to backward caste (how ridiculous) saying you don't need to work hard since you are son/daughter of backward caste people. At the same time,it is a punishment to upper caste people saying you won't succeed until you are exceptional.

5. If people from different caste work together, caste system can very well be eradicated. It only requires little bit of common sense to understand that castes are meaningless. But I guess common sense is not common amongst pro-reservationists. - Jitesh Sinha, USA - Apr. 29, 2006


From the comments on my letter about reservations, it appears it has created a furore. The whole country today is divided on the issue of latest political onslaught on the society through reservations of tow different types but mainly meant for minority community, particularly Muslims and historically under-privileged castes – OBC, SC, and ST.

Recently introduced reservation for OBCs taking the percentage of reservations in central institutes of higher education to about 50% is getting debated and even protests are being organized. I have some more observations to make.

Our country has given opportunities to people of all castes. We are not sure about the caste of Ashoka, The Great or his grandfather. Perhaps as many say they belonged to lower caste as per the present definition. For that matter many other reputed kings in India were even ‘sudras’. The society gave equal respects to them.

Why should in this 21st century the nation face this fuss? Perhaps, it proves that India lives simultaneously in different ages of development. The modern science doesn’t provide any firm answer if the intelligence level of a historically underprivileged is lower because of its pedigree. Students of all castes can compete equally well for any examination. If it would not have been so, Eklavya a tribal could have been so good an archer nor Baba Ambedkar could become the father of Indian constitution. So it is possible if the parents just don’t create hindrance in the education of their children and encourage them if they look for. Finances can certainly be arranged for their schooling, special coaching, boarding and food.

Even history has ample proof that the caste system that started with perhaps 4 varnas (based on color of skin) proliferated based on professions people adopted for living. Why should then we not transform or evolve accordingly even today. The other day when I called an electrician, he happened to be Brahmin. Many teachers are of SC/ST, so they are Brahmin by profession, and their pupils of traditionally higher castes must respect them. The company that I served was of Vaishya. Could I, based on my caste, stop saluting the boss?

Perhaps one solution may be a new way of the identification of one’s caste, something like Parsi community using suffix of ‘tobacowalla’, ‘engineer’, and ‘baltiwala’. Hindus must also use new suffixes based on their current professions such as ‘mason’, ‘carpenter’, ‘plumber’, ‘engineer’, ‘manager’, and ‘CA’. Why should they stick to the traditional castes?

Reservations based on history will not take the nation anywhere. It appears to be dividing the nation, and creating cleavages between people of different castes. Let the younger generation think about it seriously. - Indra - Apr. 29, 2006


I am in favor of reservation in engineering schools, management schools, IAS, IPS, judiciary, public sector and many private businesses. On the other hand I oppose reservation in the medical schools, army and the professionally managed private sector businesses.

There are so many private donation based engineering colleges that reservation or not does not matter. People can get a loan and get an engineering degree. Once they have the degree how they use is their choice. The Indian industry is mostly made up of family businesses and most of the top notch business houses send their sons to schools in US and Europe so the reservation does not matter. A person with an excellent business acumen does not need a degree anyway, almost all the first generation business men in India, the actual business founders usually have poor education but they still set up big business houses. Regarding the IAS, the IPS, the judiciary and the public sector their inefficiency is mind-boggling so reservation or not does not matter. Most private businesses in India do not even pay income taxes or pay enough living wages so the workers can elk out a decent living so reservation or not will not matter.

The land owning class in India has sacrificed in the past by the way of land ceilings, Naxal activities and government taking over private land for development. Now it's time for the educated class to sacrifice in their area which is service sector jobs and government paid education to bring about the representation of the masses in the Indian nation. When India got freedom from the British the business houses unlike the rajas were allowed to keep their wealth. It's time for them to make a sacrifice for the nation too. People making sacrifices for the overall good of the nation is not a unique phenomena and is a very noble thing to do.

On the other hand I am against reservation in the medical schools, army and the professionally operated private businesses since they have made tangible contributions to India and their interests and positive contributions need to be respected. - Rajendra Kumar - May 1, 2006

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